EP19 (双语) 手机翻译秒搞定,那我还学英语干嘛?English Learning in the AI Era-王艾薇

EP19 (双语) 手机翻译秒搞定,那我还学英语干嘛?English Learning in the AI Era

歌手:王艾薇

时间:2024-12-11

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hello

大家好

欢迎来到这一期双语版的播音腔

这一期节目

我们将聊一聊AI时代

我们有了翻译软件

还要不要再学英语

相信大家都已经开始使用我们手机上的各种翻译APP或者是大语言模型了

呃

无论是在出国旅游

还是翻译一些网上的外语信息

这些工具都非常的方便

我们在惊叹于AI厉害的同时

心里也难免嘀咕

呃

既然AI的翻译都这么强了

我们还有必要去学英语吗

事实上

我们也看到很多的高校正在减少小语种的招生

英语专业的规模也在不断的缩小

那是不是意味着以后就没有必要学英语了呢

那这就是我们今天要深入探讨的

首先我们必须要承认

AI翻译

特别是基于神经网络模型和大语言模型的一些系统

比如说我们熟知的GPT

cloudy等等

它的进步真的是非常快

处理文本的速度也很惊人

翻译的结果也相当的流畅

一本书我们可能要花一两年去翻译

但是给AI去翻译

它几分钟就翻完了

极大的降低了我们获取信息的门槛

提高了学习的效率

当然

我们也看到

AI目前还有很多做不到的事情

比如说一些涉及到文化背景的

幽默的

讽刺的

像这样的一些内容

它还是没有办法去很好的翻译的

AI翻译的准确性目前也并不是万无一失

在很多的专业领域

AI还是会出现各种问题

甚至有胡说八道的现象

那尽管如此

我们相信

总有一天

随着数据的不断增加

我们科技的不断进步

总有一天

AI会克服这些问题

越来越强大越来越进步

那是不是到那个时候就没有必要学英语了呢

我觉得不能这样思考问题

因为学习英语本身

它并不仅仅是为了把一种语言翻译成另外一种语言

我们学习英语是为了交流

而交流的过程当中

不可或缺的是人与人之间的情感链接

AI没有办法帮我们建立这样的链接

无论它的水平有多么的高超

我们必须要自己会说

才能够实现真正的人人沟通

另外

学习语言本身也可以带来很多的好处

我们之前也跟大家多次提到了

学习第二种语言减者多种语言

可以提升我们认知的灵活性

专注力

甚至可以延缓认知衰退

减少得老年痴呆的风险

那么我们应该如何客观科学的看待AI

特别是AI翻译和英语学习机的关系呢

大多数的专家认为

未来我们可能是一种人机协同的关系

也就是AI做一部分工作

人做另外一部分工作

那么AI和人应该怎样协同呢

谁负责什么工作呢

接下来将由我们的英语主播readdy和lazy和大家详细的聊一聊

在AI时代

我们应该如何全面的看待AI翻译

以及我们应该怎样正确的定位英语学习的价值

missme

missyoulikejamesgeorgeforthegreatintroduction

todayweregettingintosomethingibethascrossyourmind

especiallyifyouyouknowuseoneofthosesuperimpressiverealtimetranslationapps

thequestioniswithAIgettingsogoodathandlingdifferentlanguages

andisitstillwellworththeefforttoactuallylearnenglish

itkindoffeelsliketechlologymightacsosovingthatproblemforus

itsdefinlyathoughtthatsoutthereanduhitmakessensewhytheprogressweveseeninAItranslationiswellitsprettyggeringweretalgneeralmachinetranslationdetectbehindtheselargelanguagemodels

youknowGPTfourpointfiveclub

threepointfivesonet

jminionepointfiverighttheyscoreincrediblyhighontranslationbenchmark

andyouseeinrealworldstufftoolikethosetimecattletranslatorearbg

yeahthosearewildorsmartglassesappslikenotagoogletranslatmicrosofttranslator

IEtransatorlawalive

evenandnowwereseeingrealtimetranslationforwholemeetthosethosethingslikeKOOISpluslotlotthis

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yourselfyeahitsgoodtosetexpectations

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butwhenyoutalkaboutthefullmessyrealityofhumancommunication

allthelayers

therearestillsomeuhprettysignificantlimitationsokay

soletsgetintothosewhereexactlydoesastillkindofstumbleokay

wellabigoneisnuanceandcontext

humanlanguageisjustsoakedinculturalstuff

rightidiomsareaclassicexample

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butthissoundreallyhappy

yeah

theyprobablymeantheoppositeprecisely

butAIoftenmissesthatdoesnthaveoursharedlifeexperiences

thatdeepculturalknowledge

weusetosortdecodethings

yeah

andknowingtherightlevelofformalitytiesorpolghtness

thatstrickyforittoosoitswaymorethanjustwords

itsreadingthesituation

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whenithasmassiveamountsofdatasolikeenglishdispanishisusuallyprettygood

okay

butwitwhichtolesscommonlanguages

wherelanguagesthatrestrucredverydifferently

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andanotherthingisAIisntgreat

itselfcorrecting

ifitmadesomemistakeearlyonitmightjustyouknow

keeprepeatingthatsameerrorumwhichiswhyhumanposteditingisstillsovitalespeciallyforanythingimportantum

andthatlinksbacktotheveryabilitypointperformancejustisauniformacrosstheboard

sodefinitelynotamaticbullet

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thenyouhavethechallengesofrealtimeconversation

thinkabouttryingtouseitinnoisycafeyeah

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theseeverydaysituationscanreallythrowAIoffevensimplewordscanbeambiguouswithoutcontextlikeheischarged

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AIstillfacesdefinitelynotflalless

butletsfliptotheothersideenglish

itselfisstillthisthismassiveglobalforcerightcanbiggerbetalkingreallessiwashugeyourelookingatroughlyonepointfivebillionspeakers

globallyandinterestinglymostofthosearenonnativespeakers

wow

reallyyeah

anditusesinsomethinglikeonehundrednatysixcountriesmakingitthemostgeographicallyspreadoutlanguage

itsdominanceandkeyareasisjustundeniablelikewhatkindofareaswellstartwithinternationalbusinessandguancewellitsbasicallythatdefaultlanguageforglobaltrade

fornegotiations

formultinationalcompanies

lotsofbigcoolateinternallanguageastheirofficialinternallanguageevenifbasedelsewhereandresearchshowsthecompanieswithhigherenglishproficiencytendidyoubetterinternationallyokay

thatssignificant

thentheresscienceandtechnologyoverninetypercent

thinkaboutoverninetypercentofinfluentialscicitificjournals

publipubliingingenglish

itsthemainlanguageofthewholetechindustryrightacacadeiatoomoreandmoreuniversitiesworldwideareteachinginenglish

itmakesinternationalresearchcollaborationationiierhelpsstudentstudyabroad

andtheinternetiassumeitsbigtheretoabsolutelymassiveyes

somewherebetweenfiftyandsixtypercentofallwebsitecontentisinenglish

plusthelargestsinglegroupofinternetusers

englishspeakerssoknowingenglishbasicallygivesyouakeyunlockahugechunkofglobalinformationandactivity

thatsagoodwaytoputitproficiencygivesyoudirectaccess

itaccessiscommcommunitybribridgeinallsorofdiverseenvironments

buttheresaflipsitetothatdominanceisesntit

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whoarentproficient

yeah

thatstrueacademiicmightstrugggletothereseararscseenbusinessesmightmissoutonglobalmarkets

individualsmighthavetroubleaccessinginformationoropportunities

andthisraisesknowimpimportantquestionsaboutequity

ifenglishisthegatekeeperwhataboutallthevaluableknowledgeideasbeinggeneratedinother

otherguguage

theresresreallycrucialpoint

thepotentialforinequality

theredefinitelytheresarealrisk

theresortofmarginalizzingnonenglishknowledge

yeah

anditcreatesdigitallanguagedividetonsofenglishcontentonline

butmaybelowerproficiencyamongyeotheruresworworldwiand

andjustrelyingonimperfectAItofixthatitmightnotbeenough

andcouldevenaccidentallypushthingstowardsmorelinguisticcommogenizationaroundenglish

soenglishispowerful

butrelyingonlyonitoronlyonAIforithasdownsides

butwhatabouttheactoflearning

itselfistheirvaluejustingoingthroughtheprocessoflearningenglish

oh

absolutelythereshugeintransitvalueresearchisprettyclearonthislearningalanguageisntjustaboutswappingwords

itactuallychangeengyouryourbrainingoodgoodsostustudyshowlearningasecondlanguagelikeenglishcanboostyourexecutivefunctions

thatstufflikeummententioncontrolbeingmentallyflexiblestoppingyourselffromdoingimpulsivethingslikeaworkoutforthebrainexactlyamentalworkout

itcanalsoimproveyouryourwormemeory

and

andresthisconcepcepofcocognitivereserve

basicallybuildingupbrainresiliencesomestudiessuggestlanguagelearningmighthelpdelaydementiasymptomsbylikefourfiveyears

wow

thatssignificantitis

anditmightevenenhanceproblemssolvingincreativity

nowtheinterestingthingisjustusinganAItranslatordoesntgiveyouthatworkoutrightbecausethemachineisdoing

theheavyliftingpreciselytheeffortoflearningiswhatbuildsthosecognitivemuscles

okaycognitivebenefits

thatscompellingisaboutunderstandingothercultures

thelearningthelanguagehelptheremassivelylanguageandcultureareyouknowdeeplywoventogethertherlearningenglishgivesyouamuchricherinsideintothevaluesbeliefhumorjustthewholeworldviewofenglishspeakingcultures

itsmuchdeeperthanjustliteralmeaning

itcanhelpbreakdownstereotypesbuildrealinterculturalunderstanding

plusitshowsrespect

whenyoumaketheeffortandAIcantreallyreallyreplicatethatculturallaycanitnotreally

really no

itsstrugglesthatdeepculturalalcontact

soifyoureinajoborsituation

wheretrulyunderstanddingpeoplefromdifferentbackgroundsiskey

thinkairlanguagerelations

globalbusinessdirectlanguageskillsareahugeplusandjustpersonallymaconconnetionstions

finfintelytalkingdirectlytosomeone

evenifyourenglishisisperfectbuilbuilareportandtrustinawaythatusingadevice

oftendoesenyoupickuponbodylanguagejokes

nuances

yeah

itfeelsmoreauthentic

yeahicanseethat

andofcoursecareeradvancementenglishisoftenaadquirement

oratleastabigadvantageinglobalizedfields

itopensdoorsthejobscollaborationation

anditcangenuinelyleadtohigherearningpotential

somesurveyssuggestastronglink

bewengengshskills

lsininookaybeydjusttranslation

therearesomesolidcognitiveculturalsocialandcareerreasonstolearnbutletstalkrisks

whatarethepotentialdangersifweleantwoheavilyonAItranslation

yeah

thereisseveralimportantones

wetouchedonaccuracyandreliability

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awrongtranslationcouldleadtomisdidinonosisorwrongtreatmentscaryorlegalstuffandairinacontractcouldbedisastroustechnicalmanualssaveissues

andtheresthisriskofAIhalcination

basbasallymakingstuffupthatssoundsplausible

butisactuallywrong

thatsreallyconcerning

especially

whenyouneedthingstobespotonitisthenyouvegotprivacyysecurity

whenyoufefetetextintosomegaitools

wheredoesthatdatagoisitstoredusefortraining

theresariskofexposingsensitivepersonalorcompanyinformationactuallysawthat

thathappensamsungemployees

whereisthatGPDreleksconfidentialdatagotleakedplustheircomplianceissues

DPRIPAthingslikethatandcybersecuritythreats

sodatahandlingisabigconcern

whatelseethicalissues

AIlearnsfromthedata

itstrainedon

andthatdataoftencontainshumanbiases

soAIcanendupreflectingandevenamplifyingbiasesrelatedtogenderraceorculturerightlikeassumingcertainpronouncsforcertainjobsexactly

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theresalsotheriskoflanguageimaginizationpushingoutlesscommonlanguages

accountabilityistricky

whosresponsibleifanAItranslationcasesharm

andtherearecopyrightquestionstooum

andwhataboutjustbecomingtooreliantonit

thatsthetechnologydependencyandpotentialdskillingissue

ifwealwaysreachattheapp

whathappensifthetechfails

orifweloseinternetconnection

yeahgoodpoint

anddoourownlanguageability

abilitiesandthosecognistskills

wetalkaboutstarttofade

doesitreduceourmotivationtoactuallylearnandengagedsorealpossibility

sotheconveniencecoulddefinitelycomeatacostdowntheline

whatdotheexperts

linguisheducatorstakepeoplegenerallythinkaboutallthisisthereaconconsensusemergingitsprettyconsistent

actuallylinguisintranslationprofessionalsmostlyseeAIisanaugmentationtool

notareplacement

canhelpwithspeedheilingvolumemaybefirstrarafs

butforcomplexnuancedwork

humanexertiseisstillcrucial

theyseetheirrolesshiftingmoretowardsposteditingqualitycontrolmaybespecializinginareas

AIstruggleswithsoaiasahelper

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educatorsreallystressedtheenduringvalueoflearning

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theyseeaipotentiallyasalearningtoolforpractice

maybefeedbackworworrythatoverlyingcanstuntcriticalthinking

andthedrivetolearnmakesenseandandattectdevelopers

technologistsandAIresearchersareupfrontaboutthecurrentlimitations

nuonescontextbiasedallthattheworkingonimprovements

obviouslybutinterestinglymanyarguethatisAItakesoverroutinetasks

uniquelyhumanskills

criticalthinking

creativity

colcolavorableculturalfluencybecomeevenmorevaluable

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anditfeelslikeinternationalrelations

experts

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buttheyflagmamajorsksaroundaroundbias

disinformationandthelackofaccountability

humanjudgmentandoversideremamavitalaldidiplomacy

sooverovervibseemstobebepartnershiphumanplusAI

exactlyhumanAIpartnershipseemstobetheconsensus

notreplacement

corehumanskillsarestillwhilemaybeevenmore

soitsmoreaboutashiftinthekindsofskillsneededtoperfectivelyalongsideAIokaythatclarifiestheexpertviewcanwemaybecricristalizeswithsomespecificsandareas

likewhendoesactuallyknownenglishclearlywentoutoverjustusinganAItranslator

sure

letsthinkaboutcomplexxnegotiationsordiplomacybuildingtrustunderstanding

subluenues

usingstrategicambiguity

AIjustisnttheredirectproficiencyiskeyrightthehumantouchmattersisfinallyorbuildingpersonalreportinrelationships

directcommunication

evenifimperfectfealsmoreauthenticandbuildstrongerconnectionsthanmediatingthroughtechaccessinginformationthathasntbeentranslated

orhasnteasilyindexbyiespeciallycuttingaresearchchoftenpublishfirstinenglish

knowingthelanguagegivesyoudirectimmediateaccessokayhighstakesprofessionalcommunication

legalmedicaltechnicalsafety

theneedforabsoluteaccuracy

reliabilityandaccountabilitymeanshumanproficiencyisessential

oftenaffordiairstherecrecreafeelswritingitingketingleanythinginvolvingwordplay

humorculturresidenance

AIstrugglestocapturethathumansparkthatcreativity

yeah

icanimagineAIwritingterribleadsslogansexactlyeducationalsettings

theprocessoflearningitselfbringsthosecognitobenefittlydiscussedandemergencysituationsyouneedclearreliableimmediatecommunication

youcantrisktechfailure

sothepatternseemstobe

是的是的

anywherethattrustdeepunderstandingculturalsensitivity

criticaljudgmentcreativity

accountabilityorjustrocksolidreliabilityarereallycrucialthatsumsitupperfectlyAIcanhandlethebasicinformationtransferfunctionprettywellnow

buthumanproficiencyengagesallthoseothervitaldimensions

therelational

thecognitiveofthecultural

okay

sowrappingthisallupthemafterlookingatbothsidestheamazingtechandtheenduringvalueoflearning

whatsthemaintakeawayforsomeonelisteningrightnow啊

isleaningenglishstillworthit

ithinktheconclusionisprettyclear

yes

absolutelylearningenglishremainsincrediblyvaluableandoftenfranklypracticallynecessary

evenwiththeseimpressiveaitoolslsthecorereasreasarearethoseilimititationswetalkedaboutthenuonancethecontextaccuracyissueplulusriskofoverrelianceprivacybias

deskkillingandcombinedwiththefactthatenglishisstillsoomominantgloballyandsomanyimportantareas

andfinallythosearereplaceablebenefitsyougetfromthelelearningprocess

itselfthecognitiveboosttheculturalinsidethecareeropportunityisexactly

itsnotreallyaboutchoosingenglishorAI

thefutureislikelyaboutleveragingAIasapowertool

wellitstempstingingenuinehumanlanguageskills

umdevelopingAIliteracyalongsidelinguisticticpepeenceseemsmsysofinalopen

wellwhiledetemptingtojustreliantantinstantansansatorappinyourpocket

yeahwellunderestiateateuhtheenduringpowerandrealvalueofactuallylearningunderstandingandconnectingthroughlanguage

yourselfespeciallyinthesuperinnerconnectedworldweliveinwellsaidtheresadepthandrichness

therethetechnologyatleastfornowjustcarefullycapturedefinitelygivesyoulolottochewonthanksforwalkingathrowallthattodaymypleasureitsafascinatingarea

itreallyisuntilthenextdiscussion

everyonekeepexploringthatinterestingspacewheretechnologyinhumanity

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