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Ever get that feeling
Where you're really trying to figure someone out like you're in an interview and trying to decide of there are the right fit or maybe your meeting someone knew and thinking hmm could this person be a close friend
It's not easy
Yeah
Like how do you actually get a sense of someone's character ter e're real talents
Yeah
It's tough we often look for you know those obvious signs
The thing is the signs can be totally misleading
I mean sometimes people are putting on an act right totally like he said it's not always what it seems on the surface
And that's exactly what we're ving ving
Today
Today we're going to be looking at this exert from a talk by dow and tow
He was speaking at the chinese university of hongong shanjam and honestly some of the stuff
He talked about really made us think
And we thought you would find it superrelevant too so like two of the main ideas that he was exploring in this talk are renpen and shenmi ai have you heard of this so renmpen
You can kind of think of it like someone's basic acacter and moral
They are and shandmi is more about shshmpes to appreciate beauty
You know their aesthetic sense yeah
And what makes this whole converation so interesting
Sting dudo how how talking about about is very human qualities
You know character and appreciating beauty
But he's putting them in the context of ai like all this crazy advancement and artificial intelligence
So if we zoom out a bit
What do until is getting at
Is that these are uniquely human things like character and being able to appreciate beauty
And that as ai gets more powerful
These things are going to become even more important
That's super interesting
It's almost like he's asking what will make us human
When ai can do so much
So that's we're going to try to impact
Today we're going to dedeep into these concepts
And look at some historical examples
And some of doentozone persononexperiexperiences
And just some really interesting insights
Hopefully
This gives a new way to think about what really matters in the world
You ah things you're changing so fast
It's such a huge question
Right like what actually makes us human
And how will that change as ai gets more sophisticated kay
So let's start with renpcharcharacter
Yeah
Let's start there do inhow he actually use ses fascinating story to illustate ate the whole idea of renpin
And it's from this historical record called dieasy tongue
Jhn written by semmaguwong during the northern song g yynasty
And it's all about colcollapse of the gin steate
And how these three families
The hunds our ways
They eventually came to power
But before them there was this really powerful family
The z family huh yes setting the state so much was going on then right like the gene state was breaking apart
All these different families were fighting for power
It was a time of total apheaval
Exactly so by the way
There's this leader within the eefamily shee wwanzi
And he had to make this really important decision about who was going to succeed him
Yes
Sun zebo
Yes
Zebo was his favorite
But jezwanz's adviser had some serious reservations
Yeah
This advisors point of view was really fascinating
He admitted zeboo had some incredible talents
Five rengthth to be exact five strengths
Ookay to tell me what were they well supposedly
Zeboo was incredibly good
Looking like very handsome okay
That's one and a skilled archer three had a phenomenal memory three
He was a gifted speaker three and very decisive and strong well that he could make it as mining go for you know those
Those are usually qualities
You think would be great for a leader right
Right
They also
I'm pretty positive
But i'm guessing there's a
But there is
There's a big but this adviser he saw one major floin
Zibos character ter said
Zib ol lacked rennee
What does that mean so rainnee mebenevolance humanity like a basic sense of decency towards others
He was lacking that compassion
That's
That's good
No
It's not in the adviser straight up warned zewanzi
He said this lack of rennee combined with all these talents would be what brought the ze family down
He would use those great skills to bully people take of situations act without any compassion or fairness
It's a really stark warning right like be careful what you wish for talent without a good heart can be dangerous so as jeese ones he listen
I mean
It sounds like a pretty serious warning
But it first no
He didn't really agree
He was so focused on his son's talent
He went ahead and shows eboo as his air
But you know looking back it was obviously mistake
And you know it's interesting doin how he actually talks about how this reltes to his own life
I he's made similar mistakes in his career
You know hehihired people based on talent alone and kind of ignred those red flags about their character right like we're all kind of drawn to that sparkle of talent
Sometimes we want to believe that we can manage those refugees or that those negative qualities won't be a big deal as as do entil found out
That's often not the case
Yeah i can relate to that
We think we can control it or manage it
But youtimes talent without acacter becomes even more destructive
But you're giving some of the tools to do even more damage
That's a good way to put it
And you know it
That's exactly what happen zibbo as soon as he took over
He started humiliating the leaders of those other powerful families demanding they hand over their land
Well what a jerk
Yeah
He was basically using his power and influence to exstore them
And as you can imagine this created a lot of resentment
It really backked
Fired because way ihn and zao families they ended up forming and alliance specifically against zeeo
Oh No
Not good
Good
Not good
At all they launched this huge coordinated attack on zeboo and his clan and completely wipe them out
It was brutal so despite all his talenzeebo's bad character
It ultimately led to his downfall at the destruction of his entire family
Exactly
And it's such a powerful reminder
That talent alone isn't enough in fact
It can be incredibly destructive
If it's not guided by a strong moral comppus
It's a good lesson to keep mind
When you're hiring somewhat or even just deciding who to trust okay
So we've i bugegebo
But simmaguwang he actually went a step further and categorizpeople into til
These four different types based on their talent ke and their virtue defive
Yeyeah do want time mentioned that too
So the first type is the sage
They have both exceptional talent and hiyertue like the ideal person right the simalgong as they're incredibly rare
Then you have a fool
They lack talent and virtue ok
So that's kind of the opposite and of the victrum exactly
And then there's the gentleman
Their virtue outweighs their talent they may not be the most brilliant or skilled
But they have a strong moral core got it and less we have the petty person
And this is where gets interesting
Their talent is much greater than their virtue
So they're very capable
But they don't have the ethics to use their abilities responsibly okay
So which type did semoacaquic think was the best to be around well
He actually said that if you can't find a sage or a gentleman
It's better to associate with a fool than with a petty person
Really
That's surprising
Why would he say that he's reasoning a superinsightful
He said that a fool because they lack both intellect and ability
They're just not capable of causing that much harm
They might be annoying or useless
But they're not going to create wiite spreread destrution that make sense
Where's a peaddy person they have all that talent
But no moral restraint
They can use their abilities for really selfish or even evil purposes seema guwong actually paare red vtitua titiger with wings
Oh wow
Yeah
That makes the way more dangerous
If they don't more dangerthan just just a regular tiger ger so gueguewhat we're learning here is that talent can be deceptive
We need to be careful
Not to be blinded by someone's skills or iisma
If they don't have the acacter to back it up exactly and do entil really drives this point home
He says that in the age of ai renpen is going to be even more more ortbecause
Because ai can all this amazing stustuyou know process data make complex calculations
But ai can't understand human character ter can't grasp things like betrayal or the long term consequences of dealing with someone who's dishonest
I never thought of it that way
But that's a really good point
Ai might be able to do all these incredible things
But it can't replace those core human values like integrity and compassion right and do untell us speaks from experience
He's talked about how he's been hurt by people who had bad character
Even if very really talented
So it's a reminder that talent can open doors
But it's really character that determines your lasting impact and what kind of outcomes your experience in life
Okay
So we spend a lot of time
Talk about renmpen yeah
But let's witch years a bit
And talk about the second theme that do enter brought up shenen may
Which translates aesesthes sensibility
He sees this as another one of those essential human qualities
That ai probably won't be able to replicate any time
Soon it's really cool
How do entell is putting these two ideas together like character and aesthetic appreciation
They seeing different
But he's arguing to both superhuman
And that's what makes them so important
Especially as ai becomes more powerful
And you know everyone thinks they know what beauty is right
Like we all have our own sense of what we find beautiful yeah
Totally we all have different tastes and preferences
But do until takes it a step
Further
He uses the example of this u unan dynasty painter named nees on to really explain what he means by shene may
So who was well
He was famous for this really minimalalist style
You know he used these subtle ininquashes to paint landscapes and loolook simple at first glance
But there's a lot more going on beneath the surface
I was
He was also known for being super excense y
He had this thing called g pii
Which basically means he was obsessed with cleanliness and order like a to the extreme
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So it wasn't just about keeping things
Tity was a whophilosopopy
Yeah really was i mean there these legendary stories about him
Like he insisted on having this raised ouhow so
And would only me drink water from the very first bucket
Drawn from the
Well Oh
My gosh that's pretty picky
It is right
And you know what else he refused to paint for people
He didn't respect even if there were powerful figures
Who could have caused in trouble like talk about artistic integrity
Wow
He really stuck to his principles
So how do we connethis back to shred
May how do we understand the beauty in his art
We'll do in town brought up this other guy
Wu u quun
He was a ming dynasty scholar
Who was a huge fan of nezanan a fan
Yeah a big fan and wuukuan
He actually wrote a poem about nizon's art and the lines that do untal shared are so beautiful
He said
John yyg
Suang
Yu jeeling chi
Which basically translates to a thousand years of frost and moonlight accumulate spiritual energy
It's like he saying nizon's art has this deep timeless quality gy and the injury is key
Here swanwhich which means fught it represents those subtle often gradish tones that you see a nison's paintings and you which means moonlight
It vovokes the soft thereal light
It's not about bright colors or strong contrast
It's about purity and refinement
Exactly and the pe goes on to say jeruu
Newing sherry
Son iibyan
Guitenhangquit and john yunshshung sin
Which means entering newang's hand in heart
A single stroke returns to the heavens in the human world
Flowing shadows rise in the forest
Which like he's describing kizon's painting processes almost magical
You know like his brush strokes are creating these dream like scenes
It does i'm magical
So what's really cool is how wu kaan's poem helps us understand and appreciate the beauty in nizon's art
Even though it seems so simple
The poem provides this framework for understanding his unique aesletic language
So like a guy to seen the beauty all of that okay
So then you entai shored another poem
This time when that niece on himself wrote
And it was inscribed on his painting autumn woods at ushaan presented with a poem
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And he wrote while he was staying at a friend's house
During rainy muof of july
Using paper that his friend gave him
And he wrote about this quiet contemplative moment
It really adds to the impact of the poem
It does so the poem starts like this fung y uououya onezuuyang
Which means the wind and rain are bleak evening brings coolness and immediately it creates this feeling of quiet solitude so peaceful
And he goes on to describe the scene
The younjujugia
Shojean
Dchchang
Two parassel trees stand by the window
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He talks about the feeling of being alone dwelling in a human realm no carriage arrive
But he finds joy in it leaning on the sill
I feel the joy of a true paradise
I love that line
The joy of a true paradise
So he finds piece and beauty even in this simple isolated moment
Exactly
And the poem continues with this beautiful description of the landscape
The southern isoot reveals lingering snow
The western hills clear and fold descend upon the river
Like he's taking in all the detail even in the rain
And then he adds that amazing line who you you unung in by he fung
Suddenly a pair of white cranes source through the mister air
Like this burst of life and movement
That interrupts the stilness is so vivid
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And that's chingg that vital life force breaking through it's a crucial element in traditional chinese aesthetics
Wd d know that yeit's fascinating and so do ing tower uses this poem to talk about finding beauty in those simple everyday moments
And also the power of suggestion in art like knezdoesn't actually paint the the cranes
He just mention them in in the poem
But come alialive our imagination that so powerful
So we don't need to see everything spelled out for us
We can fill in the bllanks for their own imagination
Exactly
And it relates to this concept of yun ya
It's this feeling of vastness or spiritual resonance that goes beyond
What's literally depicted in the painting
It create space for the viewer to connect with the artwwork on a deeper level
So the empty is actually creates more meaning
You could say that
And it connects to this other idea called while you it's this traditional practice of finding spiritual space through contemplation
Even if you're physically can find you know just sitting or lying down and reflecting
It's like how nezzon creates the sense of vestness and depth in his paintings with just a few brush strokes
I love that ok
So we've talked about renpin in shenmi
But how do these ideas relate to us
Today like why should we care about them in the modern world
Well we went how was worried that we're losing some of that ability to appreciate subtle beauty and articulted
You know he talked about how people's language skill seem to be declining
But contracted the richness of nezsan's poetry with the way people scribe their experiences today
So he thinks were becoming less articulate in a way
Yes
And it's interesting
Because nisan and wuuuan they
They weren't known for their poetry
There were famous for other things
But their poems revealed this deaaesthesensenbility this connection to language and imagery
So he's saying that
Maybe this kind of appreciation was more common back
Then that's what he's suggesting and his point is that cultivating shenmmay
It enraches our lives
Especially
When we're traveling experiencing new things
It allows us to appreciate beauty on a debrer level
Without needing someone to explain it to us
So it's about having that inner cupus for beauty
That makes a lot of sense okay
So a rap things up the two key theams from do entase talk are superrelevant to us
Today
It's the importortance of in in character like a story of zeboo
And even do inteto's own personal experiences
They show us that talent with what character can be really dangerous
Totally
And the second theme shen may this aesthetic sensibility
It's something that makes us human
And it's something that ai can't easily replicate
Yeah
So here's a question for you to think about as we finish up in a world
It's obsessed ai and often prioritizes talent above all else
How will you cultivate both your character and your appreciation for beauty
How will you find that balance between outwarard success and inequality
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And how you see and create beauty in your own unique way
Yeah
There are some big questions
But think about the examples
We've discussed how do these ancient ideas about character and art still hold up in our modern world
What does it really mean to be well informed in an age of all this crazy technology
It's something to really consider