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If we're making the real impact
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Faneca has been in the human resources viewed for over it decade and its currently d head of hr at google taiwan
Fanassa's journey has been anything but conventional she began as a news editor for a tv station
Then transition to the finance sector working with renowned banks like a sanor chartered after completing her graduate studies in the us
She found her calling in hr
Where she has arrived for the ast decade growing up in a conservative taiwane society
Venessa attributes much of her success to her outspoke er personality and witnesness to take risks
During this interof we didied into the tlla landscape in taiwan
As well as the unique challenges and opportunities gain the market
We also excored the nesus experiences
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She learned along the way lastly we touched upon her inspiring jneney and secret ingredients that contributed to her success
So yeah
Particularly as a subject matter expert rate in this skating journey at that i don't know like you feel
And then you learn quickly out of it
Yeah
Yeah
I can think of one thing that just happened
And that really recently to the thing that i've been talking about you know fail fast
But also i think something that will come into the whole you know like uh thinking process is the the nature impulse to pursue perfection
A perfectionism like what one 美right
There's always a perfect process
There's always a perfect answer
But actually there's no
There's nothing like perfect
So one example is um is well well i guess uh one thing that we trying to build um out of many many many in you know employer is how can we try to build a platform for under representative trouops for example um ababilities uh er represender um you know um uh you know like type or uh anything right so that's intention
But sometimes you know when we think of that's a program
That's a you know project
Uh we think about okay
Probably we can design something perfect
And being it become you know problem soofved right so that's what we call perfect answer right but something that i learuh front out of you know my
My previous um couple es years
But that's in in in the very beginning
I can see the one example is we try to build something that can really sustainably grow talent with disability
Ah that uh really you know lake have their future in the corporate
They have their future uh to get employed
And that's the attention
And there is a quick fix
That we try to start with like a couple years ago uh we
We think yeah
Holly we can start by you know like a couthan
Some of them as you know like uum associate
So then they can sply by sidework with you know a couple of teams
And then we will say hey
Let's you know a coucouum you know once
Then we assess if they can or not
And that's the fix right
And that's also you know something sounds like um know know perfect answer
Then we just esual keep ongoing
And that's where you know along the way that i feel first of all we don't think about long term
We don't think we don't major incremental progress
We just feel lake okay
There is a structure
There's a group up you know like telling with a disability
There's a group of you
You know like um host with good intention
So we
We kind of pear them up
And then being things kind
Kind of sved
But
But actually 好的
好的
Something need to be there right they
So that the ecosystem is right for example um if we don't really come in to provide advice to for example tell them with the disability
They may uh encounter um some difficulties in turnso something very simple for example uh dicommodation right if they are writing their wheer into the you know office
They may encounter something
They if they don't feel safe to speak up the end you know talk about something they need uwe we fail
We basically just fail
Because they cannot learn
They won't ask for basic how they uh we can expect them to ask important question to learn
Right so um that's the psychological safety we need to provide intentionally
And i think that's a very important thing to learn
And also right if we're just you know like do something like one time off
We don't do multiple ear strategy
We don't build the environment for people to feel safe
Then how can we call it a success
So i gueguess that's not something like uher you know feel like a big failuure
But it basically start with um a starting point that you know like uh when my company's name is kind of been naming uh in the newspaper by the government
And say we need to do more because um
Those talents um probpping doesn't refeel you know they are um given you know sufficient resources and support um we when our names are people of there um i think you know we basically can choose as an employer
We can choose you know eat a fight or flight or feace right um
But we did we decide to you know take the feedback and really communicate with um you know talents with a disability and teams around them to understand you know what's missing
And um what is is the success look like for you right not for employer at all
So um i think we
We learn from that kind of incident
But um i definitely want to keep on going
And say you know always start with something uh with good intention um
But also trying to understand what is the long term impact
Don't stop at one time off effort
And say hey um you know like we're 're gone
And this problems of trying to track um you know incremental process
And trying to track um
If you're making the real impact
The kind of the
The common you know challenges for them particularly in taiwan
I think that's supreme
You know the question that really keep me um energized every day um super per sionate ate sosolving problem right um super curious so um guess the chanchanhere is first possiall um in fact taiwan is bigger than we imagine um
That's the fact um however we're not acknowledge uh the impact we can make uh in scale able way i mean uh it's only you know one or two or you know uh uh a couple of you leaders who are really believe in that and being advocate enough for the fact um
So we're not uh confident enough
I would say to say something that's that already a built in the country for example something that we actually have as a competitive advantage is first of all uh tiwent such such a place to grow pack um you all like either your starups
Either your like have some brilliant idea about tech uh because this we have a unionic very natural uh ecosystem uh in tawan uh h no matter is howare is oftwreare supply chain we have basically everything you need infrastructure
So that you can build your your your tech technology out of this place
So that's an ecosystem that we already have
And we also have another you know like a advantage is the talents right uh the education level is so high
Here uh we also you know like so embrace uh the steam so have know know um um you know education background
Yes you have a very deep
And so you know like wide range of technology talents uh in the island
So we have our you know natural kinder
You know like a village of talents here and the third is the geographically um position in in asia right we're pretty much
The center if you look at the map
Right we
When we zoom out taiwis pretty much set in the the right of the whole asia pacific
Right so we are very
It's only you know three to five hours
Right so you want to fly from taiwan
If so say you all wear south korea or to australia or to in or india
It's just strange five hours
Where in the center of everything so basically
The fact is they are already you know fourteen subsii cable cut across taiwan
Need to go through taiwan
Ah that's showing up you know why
Because we're just the center right
And it's so critically important
Um to especially infrastructure um you know like build up in the asia
So we have our competitive advantage is just is it's not building our the nna to set it out lot
And we don't know how to you know and went to or sometimes just hesitate to say it out lot
W because say say we will 比较谦虚
Is it
It's way too humble a little bit
And we always feel like we we
We probably are not there yet
Or we probably ulow low thetheteam yeah
Not that impossised syndhou yeah
Collectively unfortunately two years ago yeah
When i say well taian is the you know jaw
Ah that still you know like bear in the sea
Nobody as we see it
But you know in the next five to ten years
Because we definitely need shshine
And we will shy
Because i think generation changed right and the environment changed taiwan is no longer uh you know uh uh a generation of leaders
Who just encourage people to know it
All we start to me to you know step up
And you know say hey here is the opportunity
We do have a uh assets
Here right just like i call out a because talents and ecosystem
And you know our
Our jeogravedly in opposition
So all this are here so we are calling people coming back home
Right if you're talents and you
You feel like here is opportunity just come back
And also right like um sort out a invitation to all the international talents
Um h always like like recognize and see the opportunity
You feel like unseeing
Or you don't know now is the best timing to come to the place
And probably before everybody come in and taiwan become too crowded it don't
Don't i see
See the opportunity right here to hear the key
Take wawae for me
Good intention doesn't necessary translate into good impact
We need long term thinking systematic design when initiating projects from good intenons always be ready
To fail it's scary to tap into unknown
But failure is just part of life
The important lesson here is to fail fast and learn fast
