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Welcome to the deep dive
This is where we take your sources
And well really dig into them to pull out the most interesting knowledge
The best insights
And today uh 're 're ing something fascinating
We're focusing on just one source
But it's a very powerful one
It's an interview with someone who took a very very powcted about to becoming a suoffer engineer in new york
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And our mission really is to unpack what we can learn from this personful story
Oah really open to experiexperience being being adaptable
Um just being open to change how those things a forge a career path
That's unique
But also you know really fulfilling yeah
You can hear about some quite traramatic things
Natural dissasters
Uh really important conversations
That's just completely shift to their lifedirection
Okay
Let's dive in then
Let's unpack this journey
And maybe start with a really extraordinary high school experience
Yeah
So are in a view lee
They were a high school senior back and cish ones with two thousand and ooay a month
Maybe less before their galcow
You know that huge college entrance exam incredibly high stakes exactly
But then bam life throws this massive curve ball the five twelve earthquake
And was really striking
When you read their account is their initial reaction
They actually say they were surprisingly calm
Really calm yeah
Apparently the very last person to leave the classroom
It was only when the building started shaking violent tly
When they barely ly stand up straight on the playground outand they
They ventually
Really really hit them
Ww w can imagine it just shows how quickly reality can shift right totally and picked red this they run out to an open field
And then nothing phone signals completely gone right
Wow
Could it reach their parents
They ended up having the state school
Until maybe later nine pm that night i was been terrified
They eventually got in touch with family
And then school suspended for about two weeks
And when they went back
They couldn't even use the classrooms too damaged
So what did they do
They literally set up desks and chairs out in the corts
Studying for the gococow right there in the whole way studying for the biggest exam of your life
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In a quarter
It makes you wonder
How do you even focus yeah under those kinds of conditions
That level of answer yeah and the source mentionons after shocks too they even had to sleep in tense on the school playground for a while intense yeah
Sometimes was boiland hot one time there was heavy rain yeah
Eeventually they just got tion te accustomed to the small earthaaes
That's
That's resilion on another level yeah okay
All this disruption
This chaos
What did it actually mean for the gococoitself did they even take it well
Here's where geit's interesting
If you look at the bigger picture
The earthquake actually split fish one into two separate exam zones okay
And in their region surprisingly the exam wasn't delayed
And even more surprising
They found the questions very simple
Scored really well simple
After all that yeah apparently which was a start contrast to other areas
The ones
It harder where the exams are delayed and supposedly much more difficult
Um so this completely unexpected outcome
And that despite the deadastation um the thquake didn't actually derail their college application process just wild
Absolutely wild okay
So they get through that get into university
So they mentioned having an interest in computer science earlier right like high school competitions
The yeah they did
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So for university they chose information management
The thinking was okay
This sounds like a good mix
You know computer science plus management make sense on paper
But the question is did the reality actually match up to that expectation
Oh Well
They found out pretty quickly
Their university was much more tilted towards liberal arts and management
Um so the major end of being way more management focused in techeical the science part the tech content
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So it sounds like university wasn't this superintense academic grind at least not in the way they might have expected with a tech related major
Yeah
That seems right they actually spent a lot of time doing other thanks to the activities clubs
That's sort of how in the exchange program too that it half a year abroad during their junior year
Exactly
So it's more a period of let's a broad exploration rather than deep focused specialization in that particularly field
Which kind of make sense given what came next right this whole period may be being less intensely focused on that specific major
It's sort of set the stage for the next big move
Which was thinking about grats school abroad
It shows how experiences that don't seem directly related can still kind of pave the way doesn't it absolutely laying ground work you don't even realize at the time
Okay
So before going going brothers in another interesting step
They took a year long internship
During their senior year marketing right had a foreiggn company ambiing yeah
And they were pretty upfront about why
So they basically just wanted earn some money fair
And they were just curious
You know what's work actually like
So they applied kind of randomly ended up in marketing
And what was that like the initial impression
Well at first they described it as fresh and fun
Even fancy for that ks okay a big glamorous
Maybe a little bit
But it's time it on they realized hmit's mostly admen tasks ok ay breadsheets putting together slides
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Not really as they put it meaningful work right the honeymoon face wore off pretty much
But here's thing they actually got an offer to stay on full time after the internship
Oh
Really yeah
And they genuinely consider taking it thinking okay
Maybe this could lead to an mbb a later that kind of path that makes sense
It's a solid offer a clear path
Exactly
But then this worit gets really interesting despite having that offer on the table
There was this one conversation with their former boss
And that conversation became a huge turning point okay
Tell me about this conversation what happened
Well
This boss shared something really personal
They'd actually tried to study
Brought themselves back two thousand one right after nine eleven
Exactly
And because of eleelecomall us visas were rejected
They couldn't go
And it left them with this deep lifelong regret
Oh
So drawing on that experience
Ces really strongly advised our intervieview
Yeah
What 're young adthat ice
The world don't end up with regrets like me
That's powerful advice coming from personal experience like that absolutely
It wasn't just generic advice
It was rooted in their own history comus misopportunity and hearing
That that personal al story
That's what really cemented the vivithey decithat okay
I'm gonna n and h adadvice really it home
They packed their bags had to the us and initially
There's sticking with the plan right masters and information management
Yeah
That was the perstial plan
Yeah
But pretty quickly they realized
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Not again
What was it
This time the us program it turned out
Was also pretty heavy on the liberal art side lots of reading tons of essawhich must have been extra tough
Oh Yeah
Especially struggling a bit with english proficiency
At the time
It was a real challenge
Not quite the technical deep dive they were hoping for
So the path they thought they were on it wasn't quite right either 你的对的
This leads to a big question
Then how did they find what was right
When this new path was also kind of a mismatch right
And the answer is kind of unexpected
It came from their roommates
The roommayah they had two roommates who were both doing computer science
And these roomate just kept telling them how great cs was persistant roommates
Very they described it is really science science
You know field with a good future
They this was around two thousand
Twelve two thousand thirteen right before the big mobile internet room really took off exactly good timing
So the roommates were really persuade siso what what ansened
Did they romamaright before they were persuaded enough to try out a couple of cs classes
First to dip their toin okay sensible
And they found them fun actually even yed uh the fun factor
It makes a difference so based on that they made a really boommave
They decided okay forget information management
I'm switching majors entirely um to computer science
Wow Okay
That's a big change
Mid masters
How did they even manage that they had get recommendation letters from the cs professors
Whose classes they taken applied to transfer interternright
But they did
Did thethey successfully transferred that's incredible
And they ultimately graduate with that masters in computer science
That's quite a pivit
It really was they actually describe it as a bet
A significant bet
It's especially having already started program
Yeah
Ah can
Can see
But
But it sounlike like the bt paid off
Oh
Absolutely it led directly to where they are now a software engineer
It just highlights that
Sometimes you need that courage right to make a sharp turn
When you realize you're not on the right path
Definitely
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Okay
So looking back at this whole winding journey
I mean ve got the earthaake ke king king a high school
The university major not ququite right the keketing internship detthan this huge pivit in grad school
It's they say their philosophy now after all that yeah
It's really striking they actually descripopy self as someone who yeah
They esn't have a special plan for
For fufuture interesting everyeverything no
Grand plan
No
And their core advice which you can really see reflected in their actions is basically to be open minded
Okay they elaborate a bit
But take whatever life gives you basically whatever life gives you
You take it
You explore more enjoy your life
No take what life gives you yeah
And they look back at university for example
Even though the major wasn't perfect yethey say they found those years genuinely fun after feel that they
They really see flect of thing by not sticking to some rigid plan
So it's not just about being flexible
It sounds like
Like more more active
Than that like engaging with whatever comes up
Exactly it's an active openness in exploration
So how did that mindset that philosophy ultimately connect to their career path
And i guess they're satisfaction
Now well
It raises that big question doesn't it how do we find the thing were meant to do for them
They reflect that they didn't really know what they wanted initially yeah like just sort of push them gradually each step
Even the d towers let them to understand themselves a bit better understand their interest more deeply
So was an evolution
A total evolution from that kind of vague interesting computers back in high school
And now actually loving their work as a software engineer
It's a path
They absolutely couldn't to pictured say tenure's prior or they're happy y them the high le yeah
They're in new york working as a software engineer
They say they really enjoy the work
Feel like they're constantly learning new things
That's great
What about the pressure tech can be intense
They describe the prespressure managagable they even mention
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The potential for you know nine hundred ninety six hours that intense ninety am and nine meter ter six days weeweesscheduyou sometimes here about
But even without possibility they seem okay with it
Wow
So looking back to regrets about the marketing
The first masters attempt the big switch apparently not no regrets about any of it
Even that big bet to switch to computer science
They say that turned out
Particularly well you can say that again yeah
And if they go go back in time
Tell their high self anything let me guess be open minded
You got it that same philosophy to be open minded
Just take whatever life gives here yeah
You take it
You explore more enjoy your life
What an incredible deep dive that was a life really shaped by this huge external events like the earthquake
But also by this really powerful internal stance just being open to sometimes their journey
It really underscores how resilience that adaptable mindset
It can lead you down unexpected roads to somewhere well deeply fulfilling indeed
It's such a powerful reminder isn't it that maybe not having a super rigid plan
Yeah
Maybe that's actually the best plant
Sometimes yeah
It allows the space ace discover ver sions fight opportunities you just never was seen otherwise simply by being resceptive
So as you are listener reflect on this deep dive hear someone to think about maybe a provocative thought in your own life
Right now what unplanned opportunities might you be overlooking
Maybe just because they don't quite fit the neat path y imamagine for yourself
What bet could you take
What unexpected turn could you maybe embrace
That might just lead to something truly extraordinary
Something deeply fulfilling for you
