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I was just wondering

What

What would you consider to be the worst investment

You've ever made the worst investment

I ever made how long do you have receiving email a couple weeks back from you

And it said that i forforit to twenty people

And did i've yet ten thousand dollars

I so ve seen the money yet

My favorite was say offered to cover my legal cost for just dollars a month

What do you think there's of the most supporter most challenging to cole issues that we face

I think the issues of equity

We got lucky tickets in life

We got a ticket

Ts said american we're got a ticket

Ket and said intelligent what is the best piece advice you've ever been given

What did i tell you that imppress to the most the world's richest billionaires

Warrn buffet and bill gates

He give students advice on how to get a job

How to find success and how to help change the world

Coming next on buffett and gates go back to school

谢谢老们的点亮

The two richest men in the world are dramatically different

Warren bubutt earned his forty one billion the old fashion way by investing in solid old line companies that sell basic products

Insurance

Soft drinks

Home improvement and shoes

Bill gates is the modern genius

Who earned his fifty billion by creating the world's largest software company microsoft

His innovative products include windows office and x box

Three sixty in spite of their differences

That two men are close friends

And they share a common passion interacting with america's brightest students

Today

Buffet is invited gates to join him in a dialogue with students from the university of nebraska school of business administration

Buttt earned his bachellers degree here in nineteen one hundred and fifty

It was a girl

I had a big crush on

And she was paying no no attention to me

She was going with someone that to play the ulalame

And i thought cking it because the uqulalay

So i got a uklafor for the plan

She's still regred me

Both men relished the opportunity to engage inspirative discussion members of the next generation of business leaders

The one condition they placed on this event is that no faculty staff

Parents or reporters will be allowed to talk

Only students will ask the questions well pretty excited just just the oppppunity ity to me with the two gges

People

People

World

There's re's lot lot quesquestions

I don't very it's like i

I'm feeling proof ma say to to seen these people got it well

This would be great

These give a warm university neabassin linked and polige of business administration welcome to warrn buffet and build dates as the men take their seats

Students selected by the faculty of the business college are ready with questions that have not been shared with either buftt or gates

The students begin with one of the most difficult questions facing business

Today

Hello

My naames kkimartin

I am a senior

Finding its major here at the university

My question is how do you instill all ethical leadership throughout your organization

And to begin with how do you know that the management one level below you is making decisions that would parallel your own we have all the money we need you know we like to have more

But we can't afford to lose money

But we can't afford those reputation

Not a shreter reputation

And therefore i ask the managers

I asked them to judge every action they take not just by legal standards

Although obviously that's the first test

But also by the test

What i call the newspaper test

How would they feel about any given action

If they knew it was to be written up the next day in their local paper

And i read by their family

By their friends

By their neighbors

Written by a smart but kind of unfriendly reporter

And if it passes that test it's okay

And i tell them if anything is close to the lines it's out

And they can always call me

If they wanted to check something

But if they call me

They're something wrong with probably anyway

And that's about yet in microsoft case our top management team

The majority of them joined us as right after whatever degree they got fanny now our business in in many ways is kind of simple

Lest about writing

Writing great software

Um we sit down every year to go through the various things

That uh people have to be careful about we have products

Have high market share

We do business all over the world

So there's some particular dictatthat tiyou work with suppliers gives they uh comford with

But it's

It's mainly the uh seen these people in action

That

That make us confident about

About behaviviour

I should mention that

I'm

I am the only colledge grant up here

Yeah

I'll be taking my harbor trade off pretty soon

Because i didn't complete the the mecars

I didn't think i should leave it on the whole

But they don't allow you to

To worn more hhalf today day after i

I am terroristambock

And also a senior finance major at the university and this mister gates

Um since you joined the board at burks are healthway

Have you considered possibly taking over for mister buffet

When he retires being technotes on this one of year

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Yet This

This been on the bercher board is a real honor um for me

And

And i just joined the board last december

I have to say it's not very renommotive um

I can could even make the flight out here on my burtcher directors speed eh

I didn't hear that part

But but but turtures been organized in a very unique way uh

And and of course very different uh from my business experience which is all really related to soft on what goes on there

So i'm looking forward to being a good adviser umaking king

That that turtures grooming ing uum whatever succession eventually has to take place

But um h won't be uh burtures got a lot of great people

And uh h they understand the uniunie e stestem

And and all step uh step up to it

We put we pay our board

Our directors nine hundred dollars a year

And i really would like to pay a more

But

But built so far ahead me on that forms list

Already ii want

Want to get any emmage

And seriously we're very very lucky

I mean there

There are people that would pay anything

They have built on their board

And it's a real active friendship

That he has come on the burcher board

It takes a lot of time

It's the rewards are there

There are only psychc

But isn't to have him there

And i was the small difference in our ages makes me feel very good

I'm the older

Actually i dijust explain it

It makes me feel very good

To know that i got people of both of the quality and the

The experience

And everything else to make that decision

When i'm not there the next morning

So i'm very gravery grakful

Thank you

Here it guyeah ah 's 's

It bring out as high school

I'm bryan poppy

I'm a junior actureal science major

My question for you is how did you do to et the first time is thetheylike some sort of billionairres conference that don't know about there

Yeah

We have this thing

We don't talk about him

Now i met bill in an july

Five thousand

Thousand hundred and ninety one

And i was out in washington as a guest of aa

Friend of a mine

Who was an editorial page editor the washington post

And she knew bills

Parents and um said we're going down to this place on the hood canal albit to meet the senior gazes and bill may show up

And i've bill tatake it from there

Well

It was

It was a funny event

Because my

My mom was very sociable

And i always getting people together

And i at this time didn't believe in vacations

You know i was totally focused on my job

And so she

She said me

Me 've gotta come out

And uh meat was a warn and kathgragram ma couple other people

I sam hm hum busy uh and you know

And she's this

This

This would be great

And i thought

Well i'm not sure

You know i'm

I'm into

Into softwtwthing thing

And i don't know much about investing um

And i had hadn't thought about it much

But i went out and so warn

And i met

And i'd actually come out in helicopter as planning to go back a few hours later uh

But then by the end of the day

I was there just talk ment warn and so really began an you know really unbelievable friendship for me

And you know i could tell it even though we came from different directions

The kinds of things that fascinated us

Us that we thought

We're important

We were very much the same

And so you know for last fourteen years

We found every excuse possible to um get together

Whether it's you a bridge or golf but really it's about talking about the world and thinking about really what's going on

And it that set the core of it

Then the moral that is listeened to your mother and mark chititt a senior and actual science matter

Could you tell us a little bit about your work

Typical workday

And how you managed your time well efforlike playing hhail it you i going to stuself

But i don't get to play mathilo too

I have to say when i played my colleagues at work

I get swatered so passed that's i'm believable

When i'm on a exbox live project goththem racing

I'm a little better reat scicito have a job

We're gaming is um a serious pursuit

We get to

Think about that

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About that ah you know and playing around the latest technology

Whether it's um you know new pcs looking at new soft or sitting down with the researchers

And it's

It's why i think my job is the best

More thinks is the best

But i'm

I'm sure

I'm right anyway

I

I'm in meetings a lot

My canler gets very full with those

And then at night after the kids are gone to bed on

On email over great deal

I get get messages during the day

That's my chance give long responses

And then over the weekend i um send a lot of meals as well as well i take two weeks year to just go off and read and think or i'm not interupted by work or anything else

I'm just um solidly trying to think about the future

And people get to send me things to read as part of that so called um think week

So it's nice mix of things about twenty five percent of the time that i'm out uh travelling around with customcustomeuuuuh age

And that sort of helps me think okay

Do we have the right priorities

People what her people responding well too

And what would they

They like to see us do better

I'm might think week about fifty weeks year

I worked about two

And you''be be prised at

At my days

I mean they are

They're very unstructured

No meetings um

None

I mean with

Don't

I don't like meetings uh

And i read a lot

I wish our were fasstrter readader i get more done

But i

But i do read a lot

And ii i'm on the phone moderred amount th our businesses run themselves basically out there

My job is allocating capital

And i that's what i'm thinking about um

But i don't like to have things all pack hwered hour

Red hour

And don't

Don't are both extraordinarily lucky

I mean we really get to do what we like to do the way we want to do it with people that we choose to be around

And they are terrific

I mean we

We really got everything

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And it's we're very fortunate and in his world

He has

He has a different kind of pace than i have

But we both love it the way we do it and um

My guess is that were each the most productive in that particular mode too

Because it fits our personal alalym and aptitudes

My naab's toe for four

He's

I'm a senior finance major

My question is uh after the xx three sixty

Where do you see video games going well x box three sixties pretty good step um uh it's sort of the first of a generation from what we call high definition games

Where the rerealisuh vision that you get is is almost like a reality

The other big thing is we want gaming to be more social

So this idea of life where your prince can get on

And you can have spectators and contest

And uh make it into a very social activity

But we think we can dry in people

But we think older people or younger um more women into it by having more variety

These game types

Now every four five years they''ll be a new game

So after exbox for six hundred and ccall it know know seven twenty usomething something h obvious like that

That you don't have to got much further until the visual reallution it's so good

That it's like trying to improve a cididio um

You know there are always been coding audio with more resolution than a compact disk

But people can't tell the difference so a lot of little come back to the creativity out of those game developers

We will start to have cameras and speed recognition

So you'be able to talk to the game instead of just using sing uthe tritriggers

Yoube able

Able take you know a bat or golf club

And our camera will watch uh

What you're doing

And so it'll be a bit more like a virtureality thing in terms of uh reacting

And it

It seem exactly how to respond to that

Hi

My nie's 's hael ebracy

I'm a senior marketing major healthy university

And if you guys cided to drop a hundred dollar

Bill would you bother going back to pick it up

Or would you let aa onely college student like yself self at at it

If e grrops ten cents of the forezwalwalks out

And doespick it a ball

Pick it up

Net warm n buffet and bill gates give give world class advice to the students about good habits

Making mistakes and keeping their inner score card and check

Hi

My name is in ccalbbrokoff

And i am a senior business seministration major

Here at the university

And i was just wondering what is the best piece of advice

You've ever been given

And how has it impacted your personal or professional lives

What did i tell you that impressed you the most actually i can answer that

When first time i met warn

We were talking about getting together

And doing something something again

He pulled out his calendar and the pages were so blak

Uh

And i said

Wow

And you've manage to avoid getting tied in to a lot of kind of meaningless activity

And you a warrant said yeah

You have to be good at saying

And ah and picking the things

That that really make a difference

And that's one of many things i've learned from warm

But that's one of my favorrites and as as complainment on him

Whenever i'm turning things down

Yeah

I actually i told that was it the truth

I don't get invited any place up

I think that

And i got an awful lot of good device ice from dad

And he didn't

It didn't liit on me

I mean he just you know you picked it up from him

But that was never any of this

You know do this do that type of thing at all

But

But i think he really taught me that's more important

Uh in terms of what's on your interscore card

Then your outer score card

I mean some people get in position

Where they they're thinking all of the time of what

What the worlds going to think of this

Or that instead of what they themselves think about

And if you're interinterner card card

If you're comfortable with that

I think you're going onbe going to have a pretty happy life

And i think the people that strive too much for the outersh score card sometimes finded it's a little hollow

When they get all through um

I'm mary risior

I'm an accounting major

I'd like to know we all consider you to be the financial business experts

And we look to you and follow your lead

But when you need advice and feedback about the idea a decision

I'd like to know who do you go to well uusually look in the mirror

In the honest

The nature of what i do means i have to think pretty independently

Because if i take a poll in effect

I'm going to do what everybody else is doing

And i don't think much of that usually in investments

And so i have to have an environment

And i have to have a temperament

Personally that lets me think for myself

And i've got a terrific partner

Finally i'm charly ly monger

And

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You can't find anyabout a smarter

Any any better quality of anything

But we think a lot alike

And we do talk things over occasionbut we don't talk him over very often

Because i know how we think he os i think he's thought

He's taught me a lot

You know

You know why should i pay for a phone call

I don't always going to say

And

And if i need to get a cabinet around to make decisions anything like that i probably shouldn't be running the lot

Know know um that doesn't bothered me to have the responsibility for

But i just don't want to put it up to a vote

Because i've seen too many preticularly investment world as you get larger and larger groups making the decisions

They get more and more imaginze

And i don't think you will ever get brilliant investment decisions out of a large committee yet for me probably the most important decisions i make or a lot like when i pick what technologies um the companies going to bet on those are a bit like warror

Where really really have to be ililling to be contrary and leave some things

Aside and go in some places

That aren't

Aren't very hot

If you get out asside of that technical realm

And i'm

I'm super lucky

Absteve bomber who's now cee o that microsoft and 're 're in other's office

Almost every day day you know he's more of a business typethinker or more of a technology typethinker

But we a little bit have learned um what the other ones going to say uh over the year

So we can get each other hard time about the the posiwe we expect outside of that

If i had some really tough decision um i'd talked to my dad

I talked to warn

I'd talked to my white melindda

So i have enough people that know me

And actually know where my jujudgment isn't it strong a scriit might get over

Excited about something or isn't it wrong about something

And so they're good at correcting ting dricking melina good at correcting ting h whawhatever those blind spots are in

And i think it's good to encourage hear friends and advisers to really given that license

I don't go to a party

Forget to say hello of various people or something that's a very minor example of my blind spots back to the host st the wdodowwould help me

Ah Yeah

So

So you know a small number of people that you can turn to on

On certain key things is aa great

Great asset and incidentally it

It burks

You built as an integrated business

We have this diverse group out there

But we have forty managers and ii really encourage them to be doing the same thing

I mean they run their businesses

They don't have to do it

They're going to make some mistakes

But they basically make the calls

And they don't have to check with us

It's

It's amazing

How to centralized we are in that respect

But you know we bet t brains

And we bet on people with with energy and brains and integrity

They're got to call most of right

And i think we would lose an awful lot by having all kinds of layers of committees to review that they had to check with a that sort of thing

I'm kadole and pulture

I'm an actual science managor

And i'm a junior

And you both have several managers working under you so is wanning what are some steps

That a new entrant into the job market

Can take to excelerate their journey towards and upper level management position

Well

What thing thing i will tell you that i didn't realize when i was getting at of school is how much the unusual person will jump out at you

I mean

And it doesn't

Because they got two hundred accues arenning like that it's really because it's just how they behave you know what they bring the energy

They bring the commitment

They bring the quality of how they do things

How they treat the people around them all kinds of things

But you will jump out much more than you might anticipate one of things

You would want to be sure to do um h is what eyou like it or not with public spefortable

I may take a while get public speaking for example

I'm in that

That's say an asset that will last few

Fifty or sixty years

And it's a liability

If you don't like doing it or uncomfortable doing it

That also will last few

Fifty

Fifty

Sixty years

And it's unnecessary skills

But a lot of the skills are just human skills

If you get the best thought of people around you that's a rare talent

And it doesn't

It doesn't correate what iq

It correlites ts with an an attitude

And toward the world

And toward other people

And it's a town up that if you work at early

And you really conscious about it

You don't

Don't have to show up other people

You

You not be smarter

Mayyou know you want to bring out the best in them

It will pay huge dividence

Certatly in the business

Microsoft is in the opportunity ties have an employee

After they been in the company

Even say three years and people can start to rise

They can rise because they're good strategy

And

And we have mostly writing things

They can rise because they're leaders of people

And they can rise because y're an individual contributor

And

And we try to have cleer poadds

And are good breach of those things

What the ideal person to be frank to somebody

Who's good at all three of those things

And as should get high up in the organization

The jobs really demand uh great individual thinking skills

Being great with people

In great with strategy

It's always stunning to me given how many smart people there are

And in these individual buckets are um h are quite ite few people

But when you want want that individuit's rare

And i don't know why it is

It's possibif

You're good individual contributor that you're given so much slack

That you're never encouraged to reach out other people and get their ideas

But the people who have that right combination

Or if they

If they're not good at one of those things

They partner up with someone and draw that missing piece out those are very worthso

Whenever we 're looking at

At tosspots

Ah you know

If we could find more people like

Like that we would be a fantastic thing um money in rymen icc

I'm from amhanubraska

I'm a senior accounting major and my question mister gades is i receiving email a couple weeks back from you

And it said that i've forded to twenty people

And get i'd get ten thousand dollars

I still venthem seen the money yet

How do you think he got to be number one of that lish

I get a lot of that spam e mail myself

My favorite was they offefered to cover lelegal cost for just dollars a month

I'm trying to track those people down no

But and all seriousness

When when you're just beginning your career

What sort of things do you think we're made a big impact in your success

What habits did you develop

And what what sort of things could you pass onto us as yyounger people i had one habit that uh developed when i

When i was uh at college

That was it actually very bad habit

Which was i like to show people that i didn't do any work

Ah and that i didn't go to classes

And i didn't care and then at the very last minute

Uh like two days before the test

I get serious about it

And

And people

People thought that was funny

Ah you know that was my positioning the guy who did nothing until the last minute

Then when i went into business

That was a really bad habit

Hh and it took me a couple years to get over that nobody praised me

Because i would do things at the last minute

And i tried to reverse uh to studeni to actually

Ah

I didn't think that highly of who were always organized and had things done on time on

I'm still working on it

But uh procrastination is not a good good habit

Bill can change aa good habit

That's why we don't sure

Me ensure a gugc was

Was in me

But here's a little that haven't left so

But they haa it at about

And And

And i go the the other thing

I have the right heroes

I mean

I've always been lucky in that respect

And you know if you the people you look up to are going to form your decision of what the world

How you want to be in later alive in the one moll give you two pieces of advice

I to invest as much as myself as you can

I mean youyou're your own biggest asset by far i mean you've got

You've got all kinds of potential

All the people in this room

You're lucky to be in this country

Gone a good education

But most people go through a life

Using up a very very small part of their potential

And so anything you do that invest in yourself is that's the best investment you can possibly make

And then i would follow my passion

I mean whatever turns on

You know i

I found i was lucky

I found something early that that turned me on

But you don't want to take a job just for the money

You don't want to take a job for an organization

That you really don't feel good

Good about our work for people

That you don't feel good about you

You really want to be excited

When you get out of every morning

And it won't cercertainbe the job that you have ten years later

Which i'll be learning so much as you go along

And ii took a job with bandgrand my hero

And

And you know i never asked the salary

And i found at the end of the month

When i got my first paycheck check what i was earning

Because i just knew it was the right thing to be

To be doing

So ii would

I would follow

Follow your passion

And mewas was with venieard

I'm a senior marketing major

I guess my question is hearing about the globalization of business

Being a small business under myself

I wonder how you see that affecting small business sector

I don't think most small businesses as i think of them

I don't think it's going to have that much affect on what you do

I mean if you're bringing something to your customer that they want at a price that masensense for them

You know you're not going to be undercut by whether somebody's doing something in china indie on a small bit

I mean

But what i think of a small business as ideal with they do not have aa problem with with globalization

If you've got a major textile business or shoe business

You know furniture ure business you're going to be very much affected by what's going on around the world in terms of production cost

So a globalization is important to track

Because it's changing the rules of the game as warwarn said it doesn't directly affect a small business

Because usually the fact that you're there locally doing a very different trated product means that somebody far away can't do exactly what you do the biggest change agent in globalization is the what's going on in china

Where they are in a sense even more capitalistic than we are terms

How there they're letting businesses develop and keeping things very efficient

And so i think it's very important

What no matter what career

Everybody here is going into to look at china's change agagent think about globalization

And then thinking about these indirect eects on the opportunities for the the companies you work for

I think that will be very important

Hi i'm married upon i'm a senior management majer obviously is a public

What we hear most about your successful investing adventures or the new products that you developed that workout

I was just wondering

What is what would you consider to be the worst investment

You've ever made the worst investment

I ever made how long do you have why i made some very backgrance

But that doesn't really bother me

It may bother the shrelldbut

That's another another question

Y you know youto to to

Yougoing to make mistakes in life

I mean there's no question about it

You don't want to make among the big decisions

You know who you arians some things like that

And there's no way i'm going to make a lot of business and investment decisions without making some mistakes

I may try the minimize

Mi don't

Don't

I don't do automim mi don't

I don't look back the biggest mistakes

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Are the ones that actually don't show up

There are the mistakes of old mission rather than commission

We've never lost that much money on anyone investment um

But it's the things that i know enough to do

That i didn't do

We have

We have missed profits that of as much just maybe ten billion dollars in things that i knew enough to do

And i didn't do

Now the fact that didn't buy microsoft way things that h not a foregone opportunity

Because i didn't know enough to make that decision

But there have been other 对对

Investments

Where i didn't know one of to make the decision and for one reason another i either didn't do it at all

Or i didn't on a small scale

I was sucking my thumb one

I showed an writing cheaction

No basically

And

And know those

Those show

You know there's no place

Where it shows missed opportunities

But i

I've missed some big ones

The triumph in life are are partly triust

Because you know that everything isn't going to be a triumph

And i would never

Never get hung up on mistakes

I know a lot of people that really agonized over

And it just doesn't worth it

I mean tomorrow is another day

And you'live it forward just go on to the next thing

I think in microsoft case the biggest mistake uh is where we miss um something that's coming along is going to be huge

And it for us if we get in turely like um the idea of delivering tv over the internet ip tv we got in probably five years before we needed to it's just now starting to happen

We don't

Don't don't ll bad about that at all

There's a few things like understanding um direction say the internet search would go

Where we go woouu're replying the tiny bit catch up on that uh let's you know

Let's works some over time on this um little problem here uh people are kind of underestimatating our ability to moved to the fronof the pack there

And we've had that in many cases

And we had that when the internet came along

And became this big phenomenon that needed to really push the campaign

That we had that when ibm broke off its relationship with us

And when in a very big tition with

With that was uh a very big challenge

But we don't want to have anything that comes along

Some breakthrough in terms of how sofofer is done

That we haven't gotten the best people in and

And are putting net together

What the work 're 're ing

So we''been

Been missing something

Something like i thought that thought to be our worst mistake

Hi when it is moral eggs

And i'm a freshman international business major

How much money as you guys be in both billion aarars

You

You ys kikiling a while it in even even time

How much we going know a well well i can answer that

Because we're going to go to the same thing ing

We're going to get the poker game okay

And it's a five hundred dollar by

And and so i made very sure that i had a five least five hundred dollars in by wallet

Ah i ah i have a little more than that

But i don't carry about a lot about it bill now actually a lot of times at so what i don't carry well at all i do

What i do carry is bridge problem

So that if i get in in a line or things are slow

Even when i'm driving uah like tap something the mental to work on he bet have five hundred dollars tonightthough

And think i've rought a little expera

So i'm ready for the game

As the event nears its end students ask questions about how they can change the world and warn n bufft and bill gates offer surprising insight into the true nature of success

Hi i name is stephanie tommpins

I'm a senior economics major

A lot of us are pursuing higher education

Because we want to leave the world a better place in the one

We found it and um as one person at the end of the day

Who can actually affect tremendous amounts of people in ideas

How do you make your decisions

You're

You're changing every day i mean

If you

If it's nothing

But the children you have i mean

You know are forforming their view of the world every end you do it every day

So you are a teacher

But with the people around you one of the best things in life to do is just surround yourself with hygrde people

Because you will behave as the people around you do

But they in turn or getting it for you

It's kind of like a planetary system

And you will

I promisse you know you will change the world in some way

And my guess is you'll change

Change very much for the better

And And

But you can't expect to see something dramatic

I mean it's not one of those shooi am you know moments or something of the sort

But you

You by how you're behaving are

Are affecting other people

Setting an example for other people

That you

You will find ways to leave better world than new enrored and one thought i'd have on that is that

I think it's very important as young as possible to get of broad exposure um in this country to people who are

Are less successful in the kind of conditions

There living in what kinds of things are holding them back

You know is education working to um tap into people's talents

And given them the equal opportunity we believe in

And then ideally to get um the in many conactions in the world

Where ving conditions tions aren't nearuum what they are here in the united states

It's one of these things

When you first learn all of this

It's a little easy to be down

Because you think jez i didn't know

It was like that things are improving the opppportunity for able able people to jump uum

Whether it's helping with medicines

Helping with educations

Um small small number of people can actually aa very dramatic difference

Hello

I'm danaldeal riddle from reninoobatit

My question is our society or our generation

Generation

Why we face a lot of issues

What do you think of re's of the most important most challenging societal issues that we face

And what can we do as future leaders to ensure that we create a better society in the future

I think the issues of equity that we have

Whether it's between countries or even within our country are pretty serious issues

And if you get too far out of ack on that

Then um you get a divide

And

And you don't the the luludity in a sense of opportunity

That this country is has stood for

So i think

And it we really got to renew our commitment to the ideas around susuality ality

And think think think there are

There's a lot of actions

That

That suggest we should be taking to invest in the long term

It's certainly in this stage

We're not taking right now i can't say better better than bill

But we

We got lucky tickets in life

In know we got

Got ticket

Ket said american we got a ticket

That said intelligent we got a ticket

You know that

That said this time rather than two hundred years ago

On the same talents would not a produce much

So we got a very lucky ticket in life

A lot of people don't get lucky tickets

You know we were over china together ten years ago

And we saw some people

But would

Would make any difference

What

What their brain power was anything else weren't going to have a chance at least for a long long time time

I think we've got to do a much better job of not

Not taking care of the people to get a bad tickets in this country

But in doing what bill and melandeve done which is going around the world

And

And helping those people have things that we regard as absolute

You know gibons in our society

I mean the buills tataback acacines es to people around the world

But die e very young ages and families that get destroyed in all kinds of things for things that we could do something about those are the things that we should be working on

In

In your generation

Hello

I'm jerk

Carolson

I'i seen your management major

My question is if you could have one superpower

What would it be in why one superpowers well you think more about that the idedo i know extending

Extending which onee's lifetime would be yeah

Ah a reasonable thing

I think thing

Thing

You don't

I don't think being able to get ricomcompetors that wouldn't be much fun

They'be like kidding a hole and one all the time ah be able read super per fast yeah that be nice what well cameron so i mean heis about three times as fasas and just think of i mean he probprobably wasted ten years reading slowly now if you 're about granting a wish

I mean what you the type of thing

I mean what t's you really would hope is that somehow you could reduce the threat posed by nuclear knowledge in the world

I mean that is that's going to be great great problem of mankind your your fetime

And you know the knowledge is out of the bottle

The chinese

Out of the bottom on that

And you have a lot of people in the world

Womthat the question is how do you prevent intent of evil people coupled with knowledge

Which is now got more widespread to interact it away

Where huge amounts of damaged on the people droght the world of it

I mean that

I could

I think that's the most intelligent thing to work on sellthropically for example

But i don't know how to do it very well

We do a little

But that's um

But that would be the wish

But the reason

It's the reason it's just kind of a dream is because the problem is so tough

Hi

My name is chriis an lolove ve ve

I'm a senior finance major in our society

That's so material

And you

And your families are so well off

How do you ensure that your children value things that aren't material and things that will truly make them happy in the end

Well i would i was a little lucky

And that respect in that my kids didn't think i was rich

And i was asn't rich for a while i rebut

But even

Even after i was it

You know we lived in the same house

That they only

There's only one house

Theyve known in their life in terms of a primary home

And they went to public schools in ommahahand

And we lived in a neighborhood

Where they we still do

Where

Where the average gen comes publish more as average from for ommah

So they

They really didn't have that problem

My kids didn't even know what i did

I mean they

Yeah

Because i

Because

Because i could exploit it very well

But they did not group and rich environment

Now now those situations different

And

And i'm just in terms of you know being a celebrity

And all of that sort of thing

And that

That came late enough with me

That it didn't

Didn't really poll pose problem with me family

It

It has to be

It's a significant factor

And don't

Don't turn over to bill

I can

I can verify what warn set about his house

And that was very excited to go visit

You know think quite has he done what it had amazing things is

Is going to have

And i went to his dining room

He didn't even have seats on the chairs

And he didn't even know they were missing eieither

I don't

I don't theyou know hurry on these things you don't loving

I think it is tough and perhaps particularly

So when children grew up and have very nice nice house

And they think you know what are the real limitations

I do think there's some very basic things around giving them an alounance at younoung age

And sticking that that that having them decide okay you want to buy a candy bar a day

That means you can't buy one in in the future

And start to figure out that there are real limits

I do think we're lucky that um our children will get to go to african asia

See how people live and and even from a young age

Understand that the united states is in n statistically an abperation that the lifestyles we have

We should wish that uh many decades in the future

That the world larlarge h can live in these same ways

And you know hope that people treat them in a a normal way

And treat them for what they're um actually good at that you know would bother me a lot

If they were being approached

Because somebody thought they could influence something you know it's often thing

Every kids should be evaluated based on on who they are and what they're doing our kids are rich and or going to be riced by the will standards of the world

They don't think the're going to inhit it a significant portion of the fortunes of either this i mean ninety nine percent of what i have a well it'll to philanthropy one way or another

And

And builill as the same attitude basically another we are not going to turn out some super wealthy

Super super wealthy

Because it's thewill be wealthy

I mean there's no question about that and that

But the idea of dynastic fortunes you know i find

Turns me off

Ii don't think it's what americas about

I don't think if you talk about a quality of opportunity in this country

And really having everybody with talents

Having a fair shoshot at tting the bbrasring

And all of that the idea that know that you hand huge positions in society on simply because someone came from the right mom

You know

I find that

That hi just think it's almost on american 没有money

Him is matthew body on a senior from ellgnebraska

Several eastern eropean countries have successfully enacted a flat income tax

And now there is growing pressure in western europe to do the same would you support of the united states adocting a flat income tax

And why or why not or i wouldn't support it

You'd be amazed

How fighter is already

If you look at both the payroll tax which is over twelve percent now

And that applies on the first eighty and ninety thousand dollars of income so bill ly and i pay practically none of that in relation or income

The people that workforce it's a big big attacks

So if you take the taxks that my assistant or anyanybody in our office paace

They've got twelve percent on that first eighty and ninety thousand dollars

And then they have the income tax and their tax ate literally in many cases

It's not well

It's

It's the same

And maybe even hirer that my own tax rate

Since they cut the rate on capital games to fifteen percent and dividends to fifteen percent

So what has gone on in this country

In the last

In very recent years is a huge benefit to the very rich

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And not that much relief to people down below

And people when you read about tax rates

That you usually leave out the payroll tax

And they don't

They don't refer this provven a fraction percent

So we have come in my view to a taxation system

It's much too high light in this country

And

And frankly

I think that that

That elt i should have

Have higher tax rate on the income we get

But we pay a lot of taxes

But

But it's

It's really at of at a very low rate

And it's a rate that's less than half the tax rate

That i was paying twenty five years ago

When i was making a lot less money

That they really tatacare of the rich

Yeah

I go aluh that whowhole artitly ii think we probably needed a more progressive system

As we looked to balance the budget

That at some point

I think people recogninize that need ds be done

Probably one of the ways that will be done

Is

Is that the rich should bear us a slightly somewhat higher proportion of the burden

Than they do to today

Much large fortunes aren't never go through an income tax

Maybe it's little ironic

But both warwarn

I would say things in in several aspects

The tax system should be um more progressive

I could spend the rest of my life

And i could have done this twenty years ago

And actually pay no federal income tax

Because i could have taken my berchchhalalthway stock voled some money against that every year to live on

And when i died

You know then the state would pay off the dead on it

But i could have gone from my life

A good pit of my life without paying any income tax

Whatsoever

And it's

I frankly think it's

It's very unfair

Hi my name is dansaamped

I'm a senior finance major

My question is the forbes four hundred puts your collective networks at ninety one billion dollars by comparison

That figure exceeds the combined grosmestic product of the bottom seventy nations in the world

How do you feel that you're immense wealth contributes to the balance of global prosperity

Well well

The wealth in effect a bununof i mean the prosperity comes about through the products that microsoft turns out

I mean they're changing the lives of millions and millions of people in the process

You get these eventual claim checks on societies

Output these little pieces of paper that i've gota volt called soccer tipic s know can be turned in at some point to to get goods and services of one sort another basically the money is going to go in a way that we think will have the most impact

Beneficially impact on society build on a global basis and not just on a national or regional basis

It will go

We hope as intelligently as can make

Make it as to change the lives of people all over the world

Now there's two factors

And it turned that's the amount you leave or put into the charity

And then how efficiently you do it build a mlendin my view

They run the largest one

But i would say they also certainly among all the ones are anybody than i know about they run the most efficient

When they have literally said to themselves

How do we use this money to change in a major way for the better the lives of the most people in the world

What could be more rationally

So y've combined what i would call hedden art with huge jumps of money

And no one's gotten result in my view like they have

Yeah

I think the key point here's that only in warn ones a big piece of burchture

I own still a measurable piece of microsoft

That's not consumption what the limited resource of society uh come up you hit those limits

You consume and so somebody who makes say fifty million and chooses to you know just build manchanons

You have things happen for them

They are deverting resources in their direction

Instead of those resources

Being used say to help about people are less successful and so in fact that you can accumulate some of societies well through like and skill

And then make sure

It's used on behap that the consumption overwhelmingly goes to the less fortunate um

And it's a little bit like rob in hood

You're recycling well from that top part uh

And it's incomment on on the um

The higher up that list you are the more uh in a sense

There's

There's a responsibility to put not only the wealth but your brain power and to those activities

I am alice

Son Mamaa

Senior

Markekemamaor as collelestudents were conststtly thinking in planning towards the future

Where do you personally envision yourself to be in ten years

And glad you didn't have my daughter

If i'm am indidient health

I'll be doing

Exactly what i'm doing now

Because i'm doing what i love ve now i mean if i could do almost anything that doesn't require any athletic or mental ability

Ility

And i what do i choose to do

I choose to jump out a every morning and run down a work

And i'd urch your halfway

And i don't see anything to changes that i'm doing what i love

And you know healthful determine

How long i can keep doing it

But i told my children

The want to start going goga you know spend my time

Spending yyos and things like that they are to come to me

And tell me that it's

It's time to step down

But i've told them

Theare better all come as a group

Because if just one comes

I'm want to take a out of the will

I like i would ten

Ten years now

Hh

Turtursixsixty

Hi have to say every every time

The

The eight ten years oldeme all i seems like that's when i'll be old

Well when i was forty

I thought fifty ah would be that mark now that i'm very close to that

No no no

That's

That's not um been old

It's of my life's work in terms of creating the companies is certainly uh around microsoft over the next ten years

My balance between the time i spend on that

Filling been that big things

Versus uh my

My full time job will switch somewhat in the favor of doing um philanthroy spending more time on that

It doesn't i need to get to uh uh one of the great young people at microsoft to sort of get on the hot seat of setting the product strategy

Which is the uh a great part of my job

I love my job

It's an amazing job um

And you know i'll always be able to to have some mix of microsoft

And then aa bit more philanthpy

Well

My name is paul ternis

I'm a seniyour business administration in music major from north thecota originally

I was wondering

What is your definition of success

And what has been your largest non business success in life

Well

We played pingpong against the nine year old girl

Two weeks ago

Her naive verial yeah

How many points of you

She

She got up

'd got more more police offer

Than i did

I thought i was pretty good

And

And this little minerold she disdiscussing

She should have been a bid

She totally cleaed his that

I wish that 我说不如huhuor yeating

And i take my case

My

My goal for success out

Outside at work is

Is definitely raising the family um just getting started with that

And i think there's some unique challenges of um

When parents is very visible

And i has money in things like that

It's not easy in any case to um raise kids the right way

But i say ii hope

Hope to be successful

At that so far

I haven't caused

Caused many diamonds they simply do ing

Okay

We get a lot of people

They wanted to adopt them

He's work on as shoulder

I'm working

I'm my great grandshoulder

But otherwise we got this same approach

I would say this in terms of success

This will surprise you

But i would say i've never known anybody that had to my age or close to my age that had lots of people that love them

That felt anything other than a success

I mean you have lived a successful life

If as you get older the people that you hope i love you do

And that includes your

Your family

Your business associates all kinds of people

And i

And the converse of that is that i know people enormously wealthy

They know they get schools naed after him

And they get

They get

They get dinners in their honor

All that sort of thing and the truth is that nobody thinks to think of them

And i got i have to believe they know that

And that everything gets quite hello low their life at that point

And they

They got all these markers

And there's people on the four

Four hundred

And know that are in a category

And i w't name me me me

But it's i really

I can't think of anyone i've known

And i known some you know a lot of people about my ii

I've seen him in very ordinary jobs

All all kinds of situations

That the people around and love them

They feel very successful

Think both of you so much

We appreciate your coming with the final question of the evening answered warren n buffett and bill gates prepare to leave the stage

But not before shaking hands with all of the students

Who took part in the event

Thank government

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